Bar Pod
Bars are one of the few businesses that don’t let you lie to yourself for very long. The numbers are real. The feedback is immediate. The mistakes are expensive. Bar Pod is a podcast about what it actually takes to build and run bars—and by extension, any small, creative, high-risk business—without the hype, the shortcuts, or the guru nonsense.
Hosted by brothers Ryan and Chad, Bar Pod is a candid, conversational series about ownership, operations, and the long game of building something that lasts. Ryan handles the day-to-day reality of running multiple bar and hospitality concepts, while Chad brings the perspective of someone balancing bartending, ownership, and family life. Together, they talk through real decisions, real mistakes, and real lessons learned the hard way.
This isn’t a how-to manual and it’s not a highlight reel. It’s an honest look at what works, what doesn’t, and why most good ideas live or die on execution. Episodes explore everything from finances and branding to staffing, burnout, risk tolerance, and knowing when to push—or when to walk away.
Bars are just the lens. The lessons apply to anyone who’s started a business, thought about starting one, bought a building, managed people, taken on risk, or tried to design a life with more freedom and fewer illusions.
Bar Pod is thoughtful, practical, occasionally irreverent, and grounded in experience. If you care about building things in the real world—and doing it without pretending it’s easy—pull up a stool.
Bar Pod
They Fixed Them Beans & We Talk Gas (Not the Flatulence Kind)
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We weigh the pull of the third place against the couch, sip an Irish Red while planning St. Patrick’s Day, and get real about Gen Z drinking trends. Utility bill hacks, construction updates, live music, and a rowdy airport bar tale round it out with laughs and tactics.
• Restaurant Week plans and Irish Red tasting
• St Patrick’s Day hours and staffing choices
• Chipotle party pack redemption and small wins
• Live music returns and venue shoutouts
• Gen Z drinking habits and transactional communication
• Bar spending up vs at-home purchases down
• Teeks construction progress and realistic timelines
• Gas supplier traps and how to cut utility costs
• Bar Rescue myths and what actually matters
• Staff kudos, team outing ideas, and favorite bars
• Launch of Drunk History Wednesdays with local voices
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Cold Open & Energy Check
SPEAKER_02Redale. North Eye Brewing. Stupid. That's gonna be the cold open. It might be. I'm not wearing shoes. Forgot to put on underwear this morning.
SPEAKER_00This is how it is.
SPEAKER_01Many bumps. Many stories to flow. Good vibes. Big laughs.
unknownLet's go.
SPEAKER_03Here we are, dude. Episode nine of Barpod.
SPEAKER_02No, dude, is this 10?
SPEAKER_03No, this is nine. Okay. Nine, right? Okay. Nine. Nine. This is episode nine. Uh I do this every time now. I get a I get excited about like, holy number eight. I'm kind of stuck. I've got more energy on this one. I was feeling a little down last a little tired less. You feeling good? I'm feeling good. I think I kicked this cold. Unfortunately, I think I gave it to Mackenzie, and she's not feeling great. It's it's making the rounds. All my kids had it. I had it. Let's start off with her. Snag it. Amber's got it? I think we probably all got it from your kids. I thought I really. Or just being in the bar. I really think. I like that. If you look, you can't do it, it messes up the audio. That's your thing? Yeah, man. Used to throw pencils. Next thing you know, we'll have Warren Zevon on. Oh, wait, there. He's not around. No. But yeah, so now Amber.
SPEAKER_02It's just yeah. The colds are going around. I thought I was gonna, like you said, I thought I was gonna be able to go the entire winter without getting and that that feet went up a little bit.
SPEAKER_03It wasn't horrible. It wasn't great. I think I'm through it. We'll see. Um so we are uh this is we're doing bar pod a day early today. This is Tuesday. It is Tuesday. I know I'm gonna try to get this sucker going.
SPEAKER_02You're excited. There's the energy you're talking about.
Restaurant Week Plans
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah. This is uh this week kicks off restaurant week in downtown Sandusky. I'm going to the VIP party tonight. Oh, looky. There's gonna be influencers there. I am not one of those.
SPEAKER_02What am I what am I a VIP?
SPEAKER_03Other than the flu, I don't have the influence.
SPEAKER_02Very unimportant person.
SPEAKER_03Um so what's been going on in your week? Uh you know, I have some news uh uh after we were actually spent some time at your house on Saturday night with uh you, Amber, and the kids, and that was a blast. So much fun. Ren lost her tooth. But both now. The both, that's right. That was the second one she lost. So here's the news out of Saturday night. What's they fixed them beans?
SPEAKER_02Okay, they fixed them. You are correct. We decided this was Amber's idea. We were, you know, what do you do when you get together long? I was thinking about pizza. You always do pizza, but Amber had the idea to do uh and it's funny because of our recent discussions, to do the Chipotle um, what do you call it? It's almost like a party. A party pack? Party, party. I don't know. It was multiple things. Basically, they give you all your stuff for like 60 bucks, I think it is. Uh-huh. And then you make your own, you make your own burritos or bowls. Yeah. And I and and we all came to the same conclusion. It was fantastic.
SPEAKER_03Oh my god, it was. Chipotle nailed it. They did. And they did yeah. So hey, they fixed them beans.
SPEAKER_02They fixed them beans.
SPEAKER_03I think it was all because of the podcast, don't you think? They heard corporate Chipotle. Those guys listen every week. Yeah. And they they heard the podcast and they said, hey, we're gonna make some phone calls, and they're back in business. So so there you go. To the 10 people listening. Thank you guys. Thank you. You thank you for uh the weather sucks right now.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, we're about to go into, in fact, uh Skeed Snow Trails yesterday with T Dub.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, as a matter of fact, did you know that snow trails? I went and uh I was there when we were I was there Sunday. Yeah, and I went to get a beer, and uh Evan at the bar said, Hey, thanks for calling us out on the podcast. He did? Yeah. Let's go. I like that. Yeah, that's awesome. They've got their uh uh closing week, well, end of season party this weekend. That doesn't necessarily mean they're gonna close. Uh but the weather's a little dicey, so we'll pay attention.
SPEAKER_02From what I heard down there last night, it things chances are it is gonna be there. This could be the show after Saturday. But that's party's a good time. It is. It's because I mean, listen, it's supposed to, I mean, it's supposed to be 50s and 60s for the next eight days and rain. Oh, man.
SPEAKER_03I did see a 70s next week. That's that's but I'll tell you right. That's a lie. It won't do that on the shores of Lake. That is a large refrigerator about 30 feet from us right now.
Chipotle Party Pack Redemption
SPEAKER_02Yeah. And uh, and what you see with Elsie ready for this? So everybody's gonna get excited. I can know it, I know exactly what it's gonna show. Boy, Irish beer rolling and North High. We'll talk about that in a second. But do you see they're already saying long-term, long-range forecasts are saying very warm until about the 11th, and then you're gonna see a resurgence of winter weather.
SPEAKER_03Well, you knew that this was false. Spring, it always happens. Yeah. Uh let's hope St. Patrick's Day is okay because that's some more news. Uh we are opening Tuesday uh of St. Patrick's Day. And uh Chad, what do you think? Should we just, after that, just be open Tuesdays? After St. Patrick's Day? Yeah. Just add number six. So since we're gonna open on Tuesday for St. Patrick's Day, let's just keep it rolling. Just add number six? Let's just do it. Six days a week. Okay, that's it. Executive decision right now. We have to find somebody to work the bar, otherwise, it's gonna be you or I. Yeah, yeah. If we have to for a little bit, we can. That's fine. We can do it. Yeah. Uh what else is going on? Anything else with you? Uh I got an update on Blue Boy, the our my dog. He has got his stitches out yesterday. Hey, he is not no longer wearing a cone. Homie is happy. Beautiful. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Luca got out the other night. Got out? Oh, yeah. He's one of those dogs, guys. Listen, you know, I had her I had a Rottweiler for a long time. Dakota. She was the best. We we always used to joke around that we were changing people's perceptions of Rottweilers one at a time because she was just the you remember her. She was the best dog. And then we went and got the Frenchie with Luca, which I talked about. You know, I grabbed his poop the one time on accident. We'll put it through because that was the famous poop finger episode.
SPEAKER_03I think that's our number one download. I think so too. Name something.
SPEAKER_02I think so too. Uh, but he's one of those dogs, and we got him a little further down. So we didn't have him from like when he was like the smallest puppy. Right, right. So he already had some bad habits. I'm gonna set the timer while I'm doing while you're talking. And uh he's one of those dogs where if you open the door and and he's not on a leash, he's gone. Oh, yeah. Gone. And he did it the other day. He is a pop, yeah. But you got him. We got him. We got him. He's he he went nuts for about 10, 5, 5, 10 minutes, and then he just I let me walk up to him and completely stopped. I think he saw something he didn't like. I don't know. But probably.
SPEAKER_03That jump that he did Saturday night. Oh, and hit the and didn't quite make it. He always does that. He You want to explain that? It was wild.
SPEAKER_02He goes turbo mode. Yeah, full turbo. He'll go full Michael Jordan from the free throw line. Yep. And then a lot of times he won't judge the distance correctly and he'll just stop short and smack into the Ottoman. It was hilarious. Oh dude, I I always assume he's the problem is I gotta be too. He didn't hurt him at all. He didn't care. But but but but Frenchies have a problem. Later on in their life, yeah, they can jump, they can jump off the couch wrong and mess up their backs. You better ease up with that guy. I gotta maniac.
SPEAKER_03Dude, I gotta put him in a wheelchair. Oh boy. Well, I'll tell you what. Uh wild stuff with the dogs, but everybody's happy there. Yeah. Um let's move on. We're moving on. Uh, but hey, we're getting closer to spring. We're excited. Beer today. Beer today.
SPEAKER_02It's a uh North High Irish Red. Yes. Very good beer. Yeah, brewed on Columbus. Patrick's Day is what, two weeks away? Two weeks away. It's it's fantastic.
Snow Trails Shoutouts & Weather Swings
SPEAKER_03It's good beer. It's a really good beer. Um, you know, a couple more little bar uh updates, and then we'll get into some bar news. Yep. Um live music returns to Paddle Bar this Saturday night. Yep. Um Galen Martin's plan, always a good time. Like that. And then we've got some live music for St. Patrick's Day, too. Um and then I just booked uh Susan Carson's gonna do a show in April for us. You know, we're kind of easing into the music scene. She was over at Pictine Creek last year, she was. Everybody had a blast. Tina Creek, if you ever go over there. Uh if you're ever in this dusky area, that's out on Monroe. It is a great bar. Really cool in the summer as well. Cool, cool um outside seating, but also good inside, it's just really cool. Uh Benny B put that together, Benny Byington. You can find him on YouTube. Just Google him, you'll find him. He crushed it. He does some cool stuff. Yeah, agreed. Cool stuff. Um, and then uh that's kind of what's going on with paddle. Um and we'll yeah, let's move into some uh some things that are happening here. We talk about how Gen Z is drinking less. We always talk about that. But Chad, you brought out something about Gen Z being very transactional. So this was my theory. And as an old guy, it annoys the shit out of me.
SPEAKER_02This is my theory. This is my theory. Um I don't I don't know if it's densely. No, but you see how I kept it though? Yeah, you can't. I didn't I didn't bang it. Yeah, okay. I did a little circle. Yeah. Um so I think this contributes to the lack of um alcohol consumption. Number one, we we can we've talked about this pretty much. Ad nauseum. I think we're yeah, I think we're good. We're in the bar business, so we pay attention to it. Um there's multiple reasons. It's more expensive to drink now than it has been.
SPEAKER_03Right. Um more than a quarter of all restaurants are now adding or expanding their NA menu mocktails and stuff. Yeah, which makes sense. Yeah. So are we. Well, yeah, I mean, you can any drink we have, you you can get because it's all fresh quiz.
SPEAKER_02Get a lemon shakeup. Yeah, yeah. Um, so it's more expensive um because of phones and social media. People are a little less social than they used to be. Right. Right? Right. Um, but I don't I and and I this is tough because I don't want this is not me necessarily a negative thing, but I feel like the younger crew are very transactional. And what I mean by that is, and I notice it reading all the stories about Gen Z not drinking a lot. Uh, you you see it's it's what do I get out of something? Right? What it's seriously, right? It's very like, it's very like, why would I drink you you see all the the testimonials from people talk about not drinking? Yeah, what why would I drink? It makes me feel terrible. Why would I drink? It's expensive. Speak for yourself, right? So it's always they're very transactional. Why would I do this? When I had the same talk with Amber, my wife, and I said she said the exact same thing. She goes, It's because we like it.
SPEAKER_03Right, right. And we enjoy it. And I think beyond drinking, also, we're we're talking about it's it's also a for I think on our end, it's a lack of understanding. Like I take, I get angry sometimes when I'm texting with uh someone of that age, and I'm like, hey, uh, is this you know, do you need this? Yes. Right, but what with I need more than that, and maybe that's just me, right?
SPEAKER_02I know, I know.
St. Patrick’s Day And Hours Expansion
SPEAKER_03I'm you know, we grew up in that that time where we still we grew up analog and then switched over to digital, and they're so we know both sides of this, but they've only had digital. So for them, a text message is like a very transactional, like, yes, no. And I'm like, hey, how's the weather out there? What's going on? You know, I want to like have a whole freaking conversation via text messages.
SPEAKER_02Like, they don't like that shit. Yeah, hey, how you doing? By the way, and then you go into the you almost compliment sandwich it on a text message. Classic compliment sandwich. Okay, so so it is tough. I I think, and like I said, I'm not sure. It's not really negative, it's just the new, it's just the new version of um a communication. It's kind of transactional, which would I I get it, but I'm not trying to I'm not trying to go home after work after a stressful day and get hammered. I just like like to wind down a little bit. I like a window with a beer or wind down with a bourbon or something.
SPEAKER_03So it's instead of doing things, um I like to wind down with seven or eight beers and just relax, you know what I mean? Exactly, exactly. Just relax. Why would I shine tequila? I don't know. Um here, uh, but kind of another thing that's within the bar news world of kind of what we're talking about here is we've talked about how drinking is down. Yeah, liquor store spending is down. But you know what's up? Bar spending. 4% up in 2025. At home purchases are down five percent. So people want to go out, and we've talked about the third, uh, you know, the the third home, the third place. Um so bars are still winning against the couch.
SPEAKER_02This is good news. Oh, listen, that's I don't know about you, but that's always been me. I would much rather I we don't we don't actually drink at home that much. We really don't. We we go to restaurants, have dinner, we'll have a drink with dinner. Right. We we down to come to the bar, we have a drink at the bar, but I don't drink at home that much.
SPEAKER_03I I do, but I don't drink a ton I would I drink a lot less at home. For example, last night, uh a couple glasses of wine uh with well, one with dinner, and then I had to do some late night work, so I was in my office having finishing that wine. Sure. Um so I like to do that because it really lets me kind of chill out. But um, yeah, not as much um as I used to.
SPEAKER_02So so you're so you're so technically you're part of that statistic.
Dog Chaos And Pet Updates
SPEAKER_03I would argue that COVID really did a lot of this too. It really changed uh the way everything works. Because during COVID, everybody was getting I mean, alcohol sales were through the roof. People were getting loose. Yeah, well, you had because you could drink at 10 a.m. It didn't matter. What are you gonna do today? Drinking wine with the wine. Remember that? The governor would give an update and everybody be drinking wine all over the state. That was fun, good stuff. Yeah. Um so we already get we covered Tuesdays. Um I'm gonna get you going on something right after I talk about uh just want to give a construction update uh on Bayview, where we're at with Teaks.
SPEAKER_02This is news to me too, so I'm I'm in.
SPEAKER_03So we are um on schedule. Uh the garage doors or the the doors that close on the on the bar uh were installed. Um I'm just waiting for concrete to get poured. Uh they're moving some gas lines, so we are on track for Memorial Day weekend. Nice, but I'm still not committing to Memorial Day weekend because things can happen. There's paperwork, there's health department, there's liquor lights and stuff. But I I think we're gonna go. You gotta be fluid. Um I also need to staff that place, so that's a challenge. Um so we'll we'll get there. And matter of fact, if anybody's looking for a bartending gig, maybe get a hold of me. Um but so I'm gonna start, I'm gonna bitch a little bit about the gas company. Okay. And mine's gonna start the bitch, and I think you might have so for one thing, I got a gas bill over there. There's nothing on. Nothing, not even the heat. And my gas bill was through the roof. Number two, for the new bar, I have to move the gas meter. Five feet. Five feet. Five feet. So they gotta add five foot of line. And they have to do it. You have to have Columbia gas do it. Of course. You can't do it if you're a plumber or whatever, right? Uh do you know how much that would that cost? That little thing. And I pay like my bill is almost this much last month, which makes no sense.$1,150 for them to come and install five foot of line. Oh man. Because they need the money. They gotta dig. Because they need the money. Oh boy. So if you were uh on a hot run about the gas company this morning, I'd love to hear it.
SPEAKER_02It's because it happened, it's fresh in my mind. Last night it happened. Um, and I'm I bet you, I bet you there's gonna be some people that identify with this right now because I see it. I saw uh some stories on Facebook. Maybe my algorithm heard me bitching, but um we can that's an episode right there. Algorithms. Algorithms. My Columbia gas bill when I went to pay it last night. What yeah, fuck it was was more than it's ever been.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Okay. So uh immediately what did I do? I started digging. I go, okay, I gotta figure it out.
SPEAKER_03I got a call this morning from Chad. Uh and when Chad's hot, when he's fired up, it's uh and it's funny, what you didn't know, I put you on speakerphone. You did? Because McKenzie was listening. In the background, she's going, God, I love a fired up Chad. You don't get to see it that way. No, because it doesn't happen. Normally Chad is Mr. Jolly, but you start screwing with his wallet. No bueno.
Beer Of The Week: Irish Red
SPEAKER_02Uh boy. You like to keep it tight. No, so so back into it. So, so back into it. So it was it needless to say, we won't say the exact number, but it was ridiculous. Yeah. So immediately it led me down the rabbit hole. I went to the apples to apples site on on uh the Erie County or Ohio Energy, whatever it is. So I looked, and sure enough, uh, my supplier, I forgot who it was, direct energy or something like that. But what did they do? Right?
SPEAKER_03It's a lot of these rates are variable. Let's get this straight. Columbia Gas is your gas bill, uh, you know, but your supplier, this is a lot like the electric company. Same thing. What why do they do what the what is that shit? I don't know. Just give me one person who gives me the best deal. Correct. There's no fucking let me, you know what?
SPEAKER_02I'm I'm actually gonna spend a second on this and lay it out. So everybody because I think it's gonna I think it's gonna help a lot of people that might not understand.
SPEAKER_03Barpod is also gonna help you fight the man. Yeah, exactly. Hey, get more for your dollar. That's right.
SPEAKER_02Anyway, so I did some research, and and there's probably, I'm sure there's people that already knew this. I did not, but if you don't know, this will help. So if your gas bill randomly went up by a lot all of a sudden, yeah, gas prices did get more expensive. However, I went and saw what they were charging me per um uh uh it's CFS, cubic, whatever it is, a meter, whatever, something that you something that's designed so you don't fucking understand. Correct. And what do they do? So they're variable a lot of times. What they'll do is they'll sell you that they'll give you a 12 to 24 month plan. When that plan ends um from your last supplier, they will raise the price at their discretion. Right now, my price, I found out, is exorbitantly high at$1.08 per CFS, I believe it is. And I went and looked on the apples to apples site, and sure enough, there are plenty of other suppliers. Apple to apple site, what is that? It's a uh basically shows you the different, it gives you options for suppliers. Okay. Um, so this this company was charging me$1.08 per CFS, and immediately went on this site and I saw other suppliers that were down as low as 58 to 62 cents, which is almost half of what I'm paying right now.
SPEAKER_03And but it's just because you didn't pick that supplier within the supplier that is Columbia Gets. Correct.
Live Music And Local Venues
SPEAKER_02So you really, just like everything else in life, healthcare, blah, blah, blah, you have to be your own advocate and pay attention to shit. I, however, do not sometimes, because what do we do? We set it on auto pay and forget about it.
SPEAKER_03Well, that's I so I have everything on autopay, and now so the then they'll just snag you and then you gotta go back and deal with it. I I think I'm taking everything off autopay. I'm starting to think autopay is a, even though it simplifies my life, it's a bad idea.
SPEAKER_02Agreed. It's just like subscriptions, like Netflix, stuff like that. Yeah. So, so you ready for this? One more wrinkle. So, number one, if you if your gas prices have increased significantly in the last month or two, go to that site and see if you can switch suppliers. I'm gonna do mine today. Um, at least 40, 40 to 45% less I'm gonna get on gas. However, that being said, I looked at my electric prices because now I'm down the rabbit hole last night. I'm actually getting a really good price on electricity from the same supplier.
SPEAKER_03So you don't use Dynam Energy, that's the one I'm using.
SPEAKER_02No, that no, that's the one that I heard.
SPEAKER_03Uh I'm gonna write this down. They're they're screwing me.
SPEAKER_02Write it down. They could be. They could be, they could also not be. You gotta, it's it's it's you know, uh individual situation. I got some work to do. So now, so the the average in Ohio for electricity seems to be around 15 cents per kilowatt hour. Yep. Direct energy, who's effing me on gas, is only charging me uh nine cents per kilowatt hour, which is actually really good. Yeah. So the bottom line is here, you have to shop suppliers and keep an eye on your utility bills because if you don't, those large companies will take any chance they get to ram it in your chocolate starfish.
SPEAKER_03Ouch! So uh let's do some. So, what you're gonna do is hot dog, what what what band was that in the Limp Biscuit? Way to pull up a lift. Chocolate what Tread Durst? Is he still out there?
SPEAKER_02Did it all for the nookie? Did it all for the nookie? Remember his album was like, wasn't it?
Gen Z, Drinking Trends, And Transactional Culture
SPEAKER_03Hot dog flavored chocolate chocolate star fishing and hot dog flavored water. No way. Um, um so you're gonna come back, you're gonna do some research on this, see what you come back, and we will we will we will give our audience next week some tips as to how to lower your uh gas and potentially not only for my house. Can you do it for paddle?
SPEAKER_02Absolutely we're getting nuked here.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So I'm gonna do it for paddle. I'll call for uh your new bar. I would love you.
SPEAKER_03Please do get after it. So anyway, that was our uh that was that was budget-friendly tips from uh budget-friendly tips from BarPod and Chad, the wallet miser. Is that a good is that miser? Miser? Miser is a term for someone who likes to keep things sure. You're good at that, man. That's why that's why a lot of times uh in our business ventures, I go off on a tangent and just decide I'm gonna buy everything and do all these things. And Chad goes, hey, bud, ease back. Uh it take a log off the firewall. So but take a log off the firewalls when I get a little too excited. As a matter of fact, I just did that last week. We uh we're looking at buying a little piece of property, a little garage property near paddle bar for some storage, things like that. And it's not the best time to be buying things, but man, is it a deal. So I I I I'm pulling the trigger.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Um Chad's not thrilled.
SPEAKER_02Well, no, I'm not. That's a good one. I think that's a good one. I do. I do.
SPEAKER_03I think that's a smart move. When I'm living in your basement, let me know. I think you're hey, I just redid it.
SPEAKER_02I know it's nice down there. It is, it is.
SPEAKER_03I'll watch Luca, it's fine. Um what else is going on? Um, you know, people ask us all the time. Oh, I know I know where you're going. You guys are what do you guys think of the bar rescue guy? John Taffer. John Tapper Taffer? Tapper. Taffer. Whatever. Taffer, whatever the fuck. He seems like a prick.
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SPEAKER_03I know it's all it's it's acting. Yeah, that's his whole shit. That's his whole shit. He's probably a really nice guy. He's probably a really sweetheart, but he I bar rescue seems stupid. I watched it. I remember I watched it nervously uh before I opened uh uh Volseid bar, so we're talking 12 years ago, and I watched it all the time, trying to take all the data and stuff. And the reality of opening running bars now uh for 12 years past that, most of that stuff is crap. And I and I and I and I I haven't officially went and looked, but I guess half of the bars that he rescues end up, you know, shit or sold pretty quickly.
SPEAKER_02I know of one person that we live by down in Florida for a little bit. Yeah. Oh yeah, he did it in like it was like thirteen or sixteen months later, it was dead. Yeah. But he do he does one thing, it's it it's the same thing.
SPEAKER_03Well, he's got his own POS fucking uh outfit now, you know. Listen, I I have hopes of doing Being a bar consultant some days. That's my next thing. He's crushing it is to go out and consult. But I I think, and he's doing it for TV, uh, and it doesn't work. But I do think like yelling and pissing and moaning at people is not the way to get things done. No, no, unless you're and I'll tell you uh a little bit about reality TV because I used to do that out west when I was doing PR stuff. Yeah. And I remember I uh did a Kardashian show.
SPEAKER_02That's right.
SPEAKER_03And dude, they were actually very nice people. I'm sure. Went to dinner with them. And uh and but like the entire time we're at dinner, they're they're shooting. Yeah, and like the producer is like next to me and he's going to watch me get him going, watch me get him going. I mean, his whole job was to get him pissed off and just start throwing fucking wine at each other.
SPEAKER_02But dude, it's the ta the Taffer thing's funny. And don't get me wrong, I've been sucked into those episodes before. Yeah, but the formula is the same every time. Go in, tell these people how bad of a job they're doing, point out how terrible their books are, paint out how dirty the place is, yell at everyone, and then make it look awesome, hug and kiss each other at the end. Yeah, it's the same thing, it's the same thing every time. Anyway, I I will say he does one thing that I like and that we have to. What do you think that is? He he the only thing that I really like that he does is he places an emphasis a lot of times on the space and how people move around in a bar. I do actually like that portion. That's the only one I like. The flow of a bar.
SPEAKER_03Oh, that's yeah, and that that is a big that makes a lot of sense. He concentrates on that and I like it.
SPEAKER_02That flow is important. I'd like to have a beer with the guy, but he's a he's a it's those shows are too much. Yeah, they're they're they're too much. It seems like a jerk too. Speaking, speaking of bars and staff and everything, have you noticed our staff has been crushing it lately?
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Here. I'm happy. I we're like we are we are very like a lot of people complain about um they're hiring and getting staff and all that. We uh we've done well here. Uh they they've they've hung around. Yeah, uh, they like it. I mean, and you know, we try to take care of our staff. I hear horror stories about owners coming in and buying everybody drinks and not tipping their staff, and like that's not how you operate, man. Speaking of, you know what we have to do? What's that? We have to do our bar crawl. Yeah, talked about that today. We are we gonna do a bar crawl? Or I started thinking, should we do a bar crawl and just like do that, or should we maybe just find a place, take everybody out to a nice dinner at like 800 club or something like that. It's just a place we all get together, have a great dinner, couple classes. You know, I don't know. We can discuss it, but we do have to do that pretty soon before the season starts. Yeah, we'll ask the staff what they want to do. Um so we always talk about a favorite bar, so let's do that, and then I got a few more things to talk about that are fun. Um we are at uh 20 minutes? We're about 20 minutes right now, but I I didn't start recording until about 10 minutes in, so I think I think we're in good shape. Awesome. All right. Uh another favorite bar. What you got? You got I gotta think. You go don't go yours. I got one. You do. It has nothing to do with the actual bar, but it has to do everything with the bartender. Where? It's gonna be it's gonna work for both of us. Okay. The Jackson Hole Airport.
SPEAKER_02Oh, it was good. Wasn't that fun? Yeah, it was. Wasn't that fun?
Bars Win Over The Couch
SPEAKER_03Wasn't it just a treat? So uh you might be able to tell the story better than I. So Chad and I take a trip, ski trip every year, which I don't know if we're doing this year. I know. Uh, but uh we had a great time. We go ski, and you know, we obviously uh go out and go to bars, and we usually, you know, us two two jerks walk into the bar, and it's obvious we're brothers, and so we usually have a good time uh get to know the bartenders. It's always fun because as you know, bartenders usually know what's going on in the community, who to talk to, where to go, all that good stuff. Yeah. And so we're at the end of our trip, thinking, hey, we're done. And we went to the airport bar at Jackson Hole, and the the airport bars are are usually not the greatest. And this guy, I mean, I he probably got fired at this point, but this guy was telling dirty, we were telling dirty jokes. Oh, like egregiously dirty job, egregiously dirty jokes for hours. He was telling them other traveling people, like we're talking like professionals, are walking up and and hearing us, and instead of the oh my god, they would roll in with a dirty joke.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_03We I mean it was two hours of madness. It was so much fun. Do you remember? He I don't think you can tell any of these dirty jokes. I'll just open it up. Well, you probably could tell one.
SPEAKER_02I'll do a little hint. What you got here? He just opened it up. Remember, he started it with Helen Keller jokes. Right, he did.
SPEAKER_03He did Helen Keller jokes, he did, and it just went downhill from there.
SPEAKER_02Everybody around started telling jokes. That it got that place got raucous quick.
SPEAKER_03Everybody's like, and then the people start buying each other drinks, another margarita. Oh, yeah. That's it. We I was a little buzzy by the time I guess.
SPEAKER_02And the thing about airports, man. People love it.
SPEAKER_03People love it. They love I love airport bars. So that's my uh I'm I'm into that. I don't I don't know that it's the best bar in the world, you know. But what it was, that was a a uh experience cultivated by one person that, and then it just went into everybody at the bar was sitting, nobody wanted to get on their flight. Like everybody was like, oh wait, the planes lay 15 minutes? Awesome! You know, it was one of those scenes. It just goes to show you a bartender can make a bar. Yeah. I mean, I guess I brought up airport bars last time because I brought up Riley's daughter, which is a fantastic bar.
SPEAKER_02You did. You might be you want to be if if we're here, you want me to bring up one bar? Yeah, I'll bring up a bar. Bring it. It's it's uh What you got? Man, R.I.P. I think, because it it doesn't, I don't know if it fully exists in the same capacity that it used to. What you got?
SPEAKER_03The gold dredge in Breckenridge. Oh, that was a great bar. Yeah, I don't think it's the same thing. I don't even know that there's a bar upstairs anymore. It's kind of a did they didn't they upgrade it to like a fine dot? I don't know what they did.
SPEAKER_02I don't back in the day. Oh man, was it good, dude? It's where when I was uh when I used to work out west in in Breckinridge, it was called the Gold Dredge. Um I believe technically the dredge was the highest floating bar in North America.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it was it was uh to explain this, it is a it looks like it's like a big houseboat floating on a pond connected to the Blue River which runs through Breckenridge.
SPEAKER_02Technically it was an old gold dredge, right? The boat.
SPEAKER_03I think it was made after an old gold dredge. If you look closely, I think it was just a big, uh, big barge.
Teeks Construction Update
SPEAKER_02But this bar, so it had a like an a very old school steakhouse on the bottom left. Yep. And and and like Ryan said, you walked over bridges to get to it because it was floating in a pond. Um and then upstairs was just the greatest dollar dive bar. It had a oddly enough, it had a Czechoslovakian influence. Do you remember that?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I don't know what that kind of is.
SPEAKER_02Maybe the owner. Yeah, the owner. Um, but man, they had dollar high life's oh man, eight, eight dollar, like a ten-dollar or eight dollar burger deal every night. And it was where all the So who?
SPEAKER_03It was patrollers? Patrollers. And lifties. And lifties. And that's where they hung out. I remember getting there, I'd get off work doing PR stuff. So I'm Mr. You know, you know, business guy there. Yeah. And then, you know, I'd get down there when I'm done and just had to get out of that and have a have a drink. And sure enough, Chad and all his buddies and a bunch of uh the staff were there, just getting just getting nuts. I had to sleep on your couch a few times after that bar.
SPEAKER_02Well, that's back when, you know, we're we're we're ski bums basically. I you take it was a ski bum bar. You can't afford much when you're take twenty bucks there and you could you could eat and and have fun with your friends for 20 bucks. For 20 bucks, which it does not exist. And they had they had remembered Ebes and Victoria, the two bartenders.
SPEAKER_03Ebbe and Victoria, yeah, they were great bartenders. I mean that was some of the that bar was knew what you had when you're coming in. You before you sat down, there was a there was a PBR and a shot of J-Mo. Uh there was a high high life. I'm sorry, High Life and a Shadow J Mo, yeah. Highlight, High Life. Uh, you know what bar? I would say uh locally, regionally, kind of has the same thing going. Let me hear it. You you think you can guess? Kind of has the same thing. So nice restaurant on one side, divey. Instead of up top, it's down below. Different interests though. But they are connected. Locally? Regionally. Cleveland. Oh. What you got? Johnny's Little Bar. There it is. Think about it. Nice restaurant up front, great dive bar, great burgers, down below. Johnny's Little Bar.
SPEAKER_02We'll save talking about it for another segment because that's my favorite bar.
SPEAKER_03I can't believe we haven't brought up Johnny's. I can't either. Oh, that's a great bar. Okay, we will bring that up next time. Obviously, that has a lot of ties to the islands in this area. Yep. Um I want to start something uh start something fun. Um best social media thing I saw this week.
SPEAKER_02Oh, you got something good.
SPEAKER_03You ready? Just to said, curious, has anyone ever won Oregon Trail? What happens? The response from someone named Cowboy Vampire. You start your own microbrewery specializing in overhopped IPAs. That's good. That is good. I like that. That's a good one.
Gas Company Rant And Utility Tips
SPEAKER_02There must be there must have there must be an Oregon Trail like uh thing going on lately, because I don't know if you saw another post. Some it was like a it was like a fifth grade teacher somewhere, let her kids play Oregon Trail, the original version. Oh, it's the best. And it and she turned it into a lesson. Oh, it is a lesson. Until you get dysentery and die. Yeah, of course. Yeah, you got measles, you're dead.
SPEAKER_03You got measles, you're dead. RFK bring it. RFK bring it back. RFK will save us, it'll be fine. Um, last thing, we are starting something um at Paddle Bar uh this week and run through March tomorrow. Um, and I'm gonna try to get this post up uh if not tonight, uh before tomorrow. So hopefully you'll hear this. Um Drunk History. Every Wednesday at Paddle Bar, um, where we have some some folks talking about uh history of Syndusky. Who knows what this could turn into? This is a little test. We're gonna do it for the month of March. We're drinking for the month of March and McKenzie put it together. She did a great job. Um, I was critical. I was like, I don't think people are gonna come to that. Right. She put that thing on social media, it has gone through the roof. Yes. So Wednesday night, uh 7 o'clock, we've got Jim Miller, who um uh is a local historian. He was also the president of the bank here for a while, but he's gonna talk about some history of Sandusky. Uh we got our dad coming, of course. He's gonna do one. He's gonna do the one after St. Patrick's Day. Tom Horseman. Uh talk about talk about uh he's gonna talk about uh Sandusky Bar history. Tom Horseman, I think, is gonna talk about the founding of Sandusky. Like the actual and then there's also um um she's uh the director of the Maritime Museum. Um she's gonna talk about uh some maritime history. So we're loaded for Women's History Month, so she's gonna talk about some uh powerful women influences here. I think that's gonna be cool. Dude, so it's gonna be fun. I I I don't know what to expect, but I don't either. I am blown away by the response on social media on social media.
SPEAKER_02I mean, it's not always social media response, it doesn't always equate to real life success. However, this is what's encouraging.
SPEAKER_03I mean, I was hoping for 30 people. I think we're gonna hit that. Oh, I think it'll be fun. That's gonna be hilarious. So we're doing that. Anything else you got going on before we wrap this thing up? You know, usually BarPOD number nine.
SPEAKER_02Number nine. You know, I usually have uh uh I think every week we've done like a funny story that's happened to you personally. Yeah, you got something? I don't think I have nothing this week. No. It's been uh it's been pretty uneventful. I haven't had anybody like give me the finger anywhere. I got this great mustache. That yeah, that's good. It's already starting to blend. I know. That's what it does. Amber won't let me. Really? I mean, she'll let me, of course, but she but she doesn't want you doing it. She gives me subtle hints that she does not want me. And I think there's a little mustache PTSD going on here. Do you remember when we took the photograph in front of the Volstead that got put in the paper a while back? Amber and I were engaged at that point. Oh, yeah. And it was you, me, and T Dub. Yeah, yeah. And we and I Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Remember that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was super crazy. But the CT That wasn't really a thing then. Now, I mean you're seeing CEOs have weird mustaches.
SPEAKER_02It's that big. But I think she saw I got put in the paper as a mustache guy. And then she had to answer questions about your your uh you know, your fiance who has dirty mustache. Yeah, so I think I ruined it. That new the the Sunusky register ruined mustaches for me. Thanks, guys. Real dirty banana. You always do this. You do that? Do you do this long? No. You don't, you weirdo. Oh, you're not you're not living in the wild west?
SPEAKER_03That's pretty wild. I should do that. I don't know if I should do that. Yeah. Uh I think with the mustache conversation, I think we've wrapped it up. Yeah, so too. I think so too. I'm gonna shave into a mustache today, see what happens. Really? You're telling me next next you're telling me next week you're gonna have a mustache? Nope. I don't think he's gonna do it. Folks, I don't think it's gonna happen. Folks, I don't think it's gonna happen. That's it. So anyway, that's uh BarPod number nine is a wrap. Don't forget, you can follow us on anywhere. You can find uh your podcast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, et cetera, et cetera. Um I like that. You just went into radio mode right there. Did you like that? I did. That's my radio mode. Find us. I can do that anytime. It's barpod number nine. Wrap it up. Have a great week, everybody. Hey, maybe we'll see you for drunk history. I will talk like this from now on. There it is. Later.
SPEAKER_02God dang it.
SPEAKER_01Ryan.
SPEAKER_00This is now with the bottom, baby, flood, let's go, let's go.